{"id":3805,"date":"2026-04-01T00:21:48","date_gmt":"2026-04-01T00:21:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.woas-fm.org\/?p=3805"},"modified":"2026-04-01T00:26:12","modified_gmt":"2026-04-01T00:26:12","slug":"ftv-flo-eddie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.woas-fm.org\/?p=3805","title":{"rendered":"FTV:   Flo &#038; Eddie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Flo &amp; Eddie are actually four different people who co-existed in two different bands.\u00a0 There is an entire tail twisting story behind the name so I am going to do my best to unravel it for you.\u00a0 Two of the people known as Flo &amp; Eddie are actually Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan from the band The Turtles (see <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">FTV:\u00a0 The Turtles<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> 3-4-26 in our archives).\u00a0 Though Volman passed away in September of 2025 and Kaylan officially retired from the road in 2018 (for health reasons), their influences in the music world remain strong.\u00a0 Let us briefly recap what happened to The Turtles before we get into the meat of the Flo &amp; Eddie story.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Starting out as The Crossfires, they were a group of high school classmates who formed a popular band in Westchester, California (just south of Los Angeles).\u00a0 Howard Kaylan\u2019s family had migrated from New York and Mark Volman was a California boy.\u00a0 The Crossfires were originally an instrumental surf band and Volman asked if he could join.\u00a0 He was originally a roadie but as they added more songs with vocals, the Kaylan \/ Volman duo\u2019s harmonies became a vital part of their sound.\u00a0 Once they signed to White Whale Records and changed their name to The Turtles, they went from being a teenage dance band to a formidable touring group with many hit records.\u00a0 As the latter, they explored all of the excesses one can imagine for a popular touring band right up to the point when it all imploded.\u00a0 By 1970, The Turtles were done.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0When the end came, Kaylan and Volman finally realized exactly how bad their initial contract with White Whale was.\u00a0 The label owned their catalog and the vast majority of the money that came in from The Turtles recordings went to White Whale.\u00a0 Lawsuits would follow, but the short version was brutal:\u00a0 Howard and Mark were not able to profit from their previous hit records and the label even prevented them from using The Turtles name (nor their own names).\u00a0 In order to continue in the music profession, they became Flo &amp; Eddie.\u00a0 The original Flo (the shortened form of \u2018Phlorescent Leach\u2019) and Eddie were actually two of The Turtles road crew (Carlos and Denny).\u00a0 Mark was supposed to be Eddie but an early press mix up misidentified them so he became Flo and Howard became Eddie.\u00a0 Coming right on the heels of their success with The Turtles, they weren\u2019t quite ready to strike out on their own or resort to getting \u2018real jobs\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Interestingly enough, one of their acquaintances up in Laurel Canyon was a relatively unknown composer and musician named Frank Zappa.\u00a0 \u2018Avante garde\u2019 would be an understated way of explaining the music Zappa produced with his band, The Mothers of Invention.\u00a0 Zappa knew of The Turtles, their origins as a surf band, the fact that they had broken up, and even that Volman and Kaylan played saxophone.\u00a0 Out of the blue, he invited them to a barbeque at his house and told them to bring their horns.\u00a0 After a little jamming, he suggested they put the horns down (the Mothers included some top notch musicians like reed player Ian Underwood so no doubt Frank was more interested in their vocal prowess).\u00a0 When Frank started telling members of the band he was thinking of asking the duo to join the Mothers, the reaction was pretty universal:\u00a0 \u201cWhy?\u00a0 What are those guys going to bring into the band?\u201d\u00a0 Frank simply said, \u201cWell, you\u2019ll be surprised.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Volman expanded on the Zappa angle:\u00a0 \u201cOnce we joined Frank and he started to become more successful, people stopped liking him because of us.\u00a0 We brought a certain amount of commerciality to it that Frank liked but his diehard fans didn\u2019t.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what they were expecting, but there were certain fans from the early years who were vehement about how\u00a0 distasteful we were to the band, how much they disliked us being part of the Mothers.\u201d\u00a0 British drummer Ansley Dunbar was among the early doubters about the move, but eventually he had a change of heart.\u00a0 Dunbar says, \u201cMost people are really serious.\u00a0 I played with John Mayall who was absolutely serious.\u00a0 We had serious musicians [in the Mothers] and sometimes they forget that they are actually playing for people out there.\u00a0 [Flo &amp; Eddie] did a hell of a job.\u00a0 In the end, I was really happy that they were in the band, because they made a big difference.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Playing with Frank Zappa could be a challenge.\u00a0 In spite of the image he had, he disdained drug use and expected his band to keep their heads on straight.\u00a0 He loosened up some when Flo &amp; Eddie demonstrated they could still bring the goods while imbibing on their own time.\u00a0 He used them both vocally and comedically right up until the end of the Mothers.\u00a0 Certainly you have heard the story via Deep Purple\u2019s iconic smash hit:\u00a0 <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We all came out to Montreaux \/ On the Lake Geneva shoreline \/ Frank Zappa and the Mothers were at the best place in town \/ But some stupid with a flare gun, burned the place to the ground<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> .\u00a0 Yes, the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Smoke on the Water<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> fire damage\u00a0 included the Mother\u2019s touring equipment, but this wasn\u2019t the end of the band.\u00a0 Frank was ready to pull the plug on the last two weeks of the European tour but the band (who got paid by the gig) convinced him to carry on.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The next leg of the tour ended the Mothers of Invention for good but not in a triumphant way.\u00a0 The last shows in France and Belgium were canceled but the December 10 and 11 performances at The Rainbow Theater in London were not.\u00a0 Playing rented equipment (with no mention of the cowbell that was reportedly rescued from the ashes in Montreaux), they made it to the encore (The Beatles <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I Wanna Hold Your Hand<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">)<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0 A fan rushed the stage and pushed Zappa off the front of the stage.\u00a0 When he landed 12 feet below, even Frank thought he might be dead.\u00a0 He suffered serious injuries that would put in a wheelchair and keep him off the stage for nearly a year.\u00a0 The band, left without any other options, drifted apart and on to other gigs.\u00a0 Flo &amp; Eddie caused some stir when they jokingly said Frank had jumped into the orchestra pit.\u00a0 At least they were able to repair this rift with Zappa before he died of cancer in 1993, but the Mothers never performed as a unit again.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0When they were touring Europe with Frank in 1970, Flo &amp; Eddie were called upon to add background vocals for Marc Bolan\u2019s T-Rex album <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Electric Warrior<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0 Yes, that is their voices on Bolan\u2019s massive hits, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hot Love<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bang a Gong (Get It On).\u00a0 <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Those sessions did not start off well.\u00a0 Famed producer Tony Visconti and engineer Roy Thomas Baker had questions about Volman\u2019s rather unfriendly comments at their first meeting.\u00a0 Guitarist Jeff Skunk explained that Mark only made fun of people he respected and eventually Visconti and Baker got it (Flo\u2019s sense of humor) and they did enjoy working on the vocal tracks with the duo.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Flo &amp; Eddie would probably have continued to work with Bolan but when they dared to ask to be paid, Marc was done with them.\u00a0 For some reason he felt people should just do things for him for free.\u00a0 Visconti said he and Bolan ended up mimicking Flo &amp; Eddie\u2019s style for a while before hiring female singers to hit the high notes.\u00a0 This rift was never healed as Bolan died from injuries on September 16, 1977 when his girlfriend lost control of their car and hit a fence post and a tree.\u00a0 Bolan did not drive so the accident was attributed to her driving drunk and Marc not wearing a seatbelt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0In the wake of Zappa\u2019s accident, Volman and Kaylan went on to record an album (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Phlorescent Leech &amp; Eddie<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) for Reprise Records (released in 1972).\u00a0 They used what was left of the Mothers of Invention for the first recording.\u00a0 The album wasn\u2019t a success, but they kept releasing albums as Flo &amp; Eddie (including <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Flo &amp; Eddie, Illegal, Immoral and Fattening, Moving Targets, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Rock Steady with Flo &amp; Eddie<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) and touring.\u00a0 They were the opening act on Alice Cooper\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">School\u2019s Out <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">show in Munich in November of 1972 and on the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Billion Dollar Babies Tour <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">in 1973.\u00a0 Cooper invited them to add background vocals to his next three albums.\u00a0 They had no trouble finding studio work in the early 1980s and can be heard on various hits including Bruce Springsteen\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hungry Heart <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(1982).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0I missed the opportunity to see Flo &amp; Eddie at NMU when they played a concert in the big gym next to the Hedgecock Field house.\u00a0 The date was Thursday September 12, 1973 and I remember seeing the posters.\u00a0 The fact I didn\u2019t go tells me that my band Knockdown had a gig that night.\u00a0 We had a monthly Thursday to Saturday engagement at the NCO Club at K.I.Sawyer Airforce Base so this would match up with me missing it.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t recognize the guys on the poster and had not heard about the adventures of Flo &amp; Eddie at that time.\u00a0 I later regretted not getting to see them but as fate would have it, I would get a second chance in Calumet.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0It wasn\u2019t all smooth sailing and laughs.\u00a0 At the beginning of a tour opening for The Doobie Brothers, band member Phil Reed fell ten stories to his death.\u00a0 Drugs were plentiful at the time and there were some heavy drug guys about, but the circumstances of his fall were unclear.\u00a0 He wasn\u2019t suicidal, there was no evidence of foul play, and it may have been nothing more than a stupid accident &#8211; the jury is still out to this day.\u00a0 In the aftermath, Flo &amp; Eddie decided it was time to take a year off and regroup.\u00a0 When they began getting back to work, one of the gigs they took on was doing music for the animated <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Care Bears<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Strawberry Shortcake<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> series.\u00a0 As they joked at the Calumet Theater show, \u201cSee?\u00a0 We have been corrupting your kids for decades!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0In the early 1980s, Flo &amp; Eddie managed to finally get their catalog and name back.\u00a0 When The Turtles dissolved, they had paid the other band members off so they could keep the name (before they learned they couldn\u2019t use it) and profits from band merchandise.\u00a0 After performing for many years as Flo &amp; Eddie (and later as The Turtles featuring Flo &amp; Eddie), 1984 saw them hit the road as a way to cash in on past glories.\u00a0 They got together with Spank and Our Gang, Gary Puckett (minus the Union Gap), and The Association for a nationwide tour billed as <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Happy Together Tour.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0 The concert data base I looked at showed them playing Lakeview Arena in Marquette during this jaunt.\u00a0 The next year, the Turtles did another <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> tour, this time with the Buckinghams, Gary Lewis, and the Grass Roots.\u00a0 The tour was out for eight months and was one of the top ten concert draws that year.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The next step was to try a version of this coast to coast touring, but only as The Turtles.\u00a0 They employed musicians from both coasts (they called them the West and East Coast bands).\u00a0 Whichever musicians were closest to the next gig would get flown in for the show.\u00a0 Equipment was rented meaning they didn\u2019t have to truck it all over the place.\u00a0 We got to see a matinee of this arrangement at the Calumet Theater back in the early 2000s, back when the theater insisted that bands do two shows on one day.\u00a0 The drummer (Joe Stefko) had recently appeared on Broadway as a member of Big Brother and the Holding Company in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Love Janice.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0 The keyboard player named Benji I later found out had worked with guitarist Mark Tomorsky from Measured Chaos (Al Jacquez\u2019s band who played the Ontonagon Theater twice in the early 2000s).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Our old radio station go-to techie Mark Szaroletta was backstage running the stage monitors for the Calumet show.\u00a0 Mark said when the band arrived, Volman came in the back door, looked around and said, \u201cHey, I thought they had torn down all these dumps!\u201d (or words to that effect).\u00a0 Naturally, being the sharp guy he was, Flo immediately read the faces of the theater volunteers around him and walked back what he had just meant as a joke:\u00a0 \u201cNo, hey, I am kidding.\u00a0 We really do love these old theaters and this one is great,\u201d (again, words to that effect).\u00a0 When Volman did the offstage introduction for the show, he was back in form, saying, \u201cLadies and gentlemen, will you please welcome to\u2026 where are we again?&#8230; to the Calumet Theater, The Turtles!\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0I got to see them interact with fans after the show and one could see they were enjoying the meet and greet even with another show scheduled.\u00a0 WOAS-FM had one of the first digital cameras that were on the market so I took the opportunity to get a quick photo with drummer Joe Stefko (Flo &amp; Eddie were surrounded by that time).\u00a0 Stefko seemed pleased when I mentioned how much I enjoyed his drumming.\u00a0 He explained he doesn\u2019t usually like playing rented kits but this one was fine after he found enough cymbals.\u00a0 After all the years of computer changes at the school, I am not sure where this photo is archived, but maybe I will find it one day.\u00a0 The photo was nice, but Stefko is a rather short individual so I looked like Godzilla standing next to him.\u00a0 Mark said they were looking for someone to man the follow-spotlight in the second balcony for the evening show but it wasn\u2019t in the cards for me to help out.\u00a0 I later regretted not making the time, but on the other hand, I have been on that balcony before and I remember getting a distinct case of vertigo looking down from the front row where the spotlight was rigged.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0In 1992, at the age of 45, Volman started working on a bachelor\u2019s degree at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles.\u00a0 He completed his studies in 1997 and as a magna cum laude class valedictorian, he spoke at the commencement ceremony.\u00a0 <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The CBS Evening News<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> covered the story as Mark led the graduates in a chorus of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy Together.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0 After completing a Master\u2019s degree in Fine Arts (also from Loyola), he taught Music Business &amp; Industry courses at Loyola.\u00a0 Volman would go on to be a professor and coordinator of the Entertainment Industry Studies Program at Belmont University in Nashville.\u00a0 During his tenure at Belmont, he began taking students out on tour with The Turtles and the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy Together Tours <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">where they got hands-on experience while serving as the production and road crew.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Both Volman and Kaylan had their share of health troubles in the 2010s.\u00a0 Mark was diagnosed with throat cancer in 2015, received treatment, and was cancer free in 2016.\u00a0 He later reported he had Lewy body dementia but his cause of death (in September of 2025 at the age of 78) was listed as a \u2018brief, sudden illness from a blood disease\u2019.\u00a0 Kaylan retired from performing in 2018 due to cardiac issues but has remained active writing and posting on various media sites.\u00a0 Even after Howard retired, the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy Together Tours<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> continued with Ron Dante (the voice of The Archies records including <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sugar Sugar<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) stepped up to fill his role with The Turtles portion of the show.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0More recent <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">HTT<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> acts have included Gary Puckett, The Cowsills, The Association, The Vogues, Jerry Scheff (Chicago), The Troggs, and The Fortunes.\u00a0 Chuck Negron (Three Dog Night) was a frequent member of the tour but he also had to bow out for health reasons.\u00a0 By all reports, Volman was still involved in the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">HTT <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">in the months before his death.\u00a0 In the tried and true \u2018the show must go on\u2019 tradition, Ron Dante and the rest of the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy Together Tour<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> groups will be on the road again in 2026.\u00a0 In many cases, the old groups are represented by one or two original members.\u00a0 The backing band for a number of years has included musicians who toured with The Alan Parsons Project when they performed at Michigan Tech University in the early 2000s (notably guitarist Godfrey Townsend, drummer Steve Murphy, and keyboard player Manny Focarazzo).\u00a0 Townsend and Focarazzo are still with the current <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">HT <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">band.\u00a0 The <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy Together Tour <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">has scheduled shows in Detroit and the Wisconsin Dells among their 2026 dates listed on their web site.\u00a0 Even without Howard and Mark in the line up, I suspect The Turtles\u2019 catalog will be well represented.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Top Piece Video:\u00a0\u00a0<em>Happy Together<\/em> from\u00a0<em>The Midnight Special\u00a0<\/em>circa 1976 &#8211; 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